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  1. rob

    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion Didn't you read my last post and the picture of where you got your April 2 1940 article from, from a Merlin L Neff, just a ordinary SDA human, with uninspired sentences. Not everything published by ordinary SDA people is truth. Didn't you know that? Read the EGW quote I gave...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion IN answer to your question I am surprised by you Grunion for posting an uninspired sentence by a human called Merlin L Neff lucky enough to have her sentenced published. Such a sentence means nothing to me, and nothing to my views as a SDA. There is nothing in the writings...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings again https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/catechism/index.cfm?recnum=610 CCC: “253The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity". 83 The divine persons do not share the one divinity...
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    Angel Michael

    But Grunion I did answer your question. You have prophets like Thomas Aquinas who made many remarks that I too feel the Bible do not agree with, the problem is our view of Scripture is influenced by our prophets who influence us. You are no different to the SDA and our prophet. Now I am not...
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    Angel Michael

    Ok Grunion, let me answer you question with a little about your own saints and prophets of inspiration. (1) Thomas Aquinas, as a Doctor of the Church, Thomas is considered one of the Catholic Church's greatest theologians and philosophers.[15] What Is...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion You say a basic premise that affects your primary theme: The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are Ontologically One God - not three independent Beings as Ellen White taught. Ellen White never said the Father, Son and HS are independent beings You also need to show me from the CCC...
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    Angel Michael

    OK I am listening Grunion, and I have an open mind. So what is more basic than God and only GOD having a sense of independence but refusing to do it? This I feel is the most basic of all questions and the reason behind this thread. I know this fundamental goes against CCC thinking, I think...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion How can I agree or disagree with the Nicene Creed if nobody is willing to talk to me? I am some things I find in the CCC are nice, but since nobody explains the CCC terms, how am I supposed to know either way? I have an open mind and I see a lot of common ground in the CCC I...
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    Angel Michael

    I seem not to like CCC 475. You said Jesus was like us in all points but was without sin, is false because Jesus has two wills and humans have one will, so that is a massive difference between humans In my view Jesus must (I assume) had one will and therefore two natures, but one nature (the...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion Ok sorry about the mistake, but again while I like talking to you, you seem not to discuss together with me? I gave you post #109 about why Michel is the Son of God - no need for prophet help - Bible verses are clear. (1) Explain using Scripture how Michael is an cherub...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion SDA distinctive Doctrines were all based upon the supposed visions of Ellen White... ...NOT Bible alone. Comment on my last post than #109 I gave you many Daniel Bible verses describing that the Son of Man sitting down near the Father is the same person standing up in Daniel...
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    Angel Michael

    "The Great God of Heaven said (in Daniel 2) that failure was impossible. Did I get the right verse? Prophecy never fails. Ellen White claimed failure WAS possible. She did? Where? This context is about prophecy? Show me an exact message from EGW that one can readily confirm her message as...
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    Angel Michael

    Da 2:28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. (Fuzzy KJV) The word God here is "Eloah" meaning "heavenly Father" So the Father knows all things into the future. You wrote wrong of Michael who is...
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    Angel Michael

    https://www.catholic.com/qa/distinguishing-between-gods-freedom-and-our-free-will No, God couldn’t be God without being all-knowing (omniscient) and all-powerful (omnipotent). If he had such limitations, he would be vulnerable to negative impact by someone or something greater than himself. In...
  15. rob

    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion been driving heaps today so lots of hours to think through your primary question. You are right God knows all things, wrote them about His Son before He lived as a human in faith to His Father, this cannot take away the human decisions and the fragile nature of being a human...
  16. rob

    Angel Michael

    Thank you for replying - your view as I guessed is completely, different to my view - that is OK - I am happy for you to retain your view, but now I will test your view against the Bible and it's logic - There are many things Satan claims - He was once a devout practicing angel doing faith and...
  17. rob

    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion You said "Rob, I read what you said and again ask that you stay focused on the primary topic. I am on the primary focus, but Catholics like yourself, have different word meanings of Hebrew words. How do I know you read my discussion if you do not critically discuss my...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings again I quote the same Catholic discussion of the idea that Jesus could never have sinned. Now according to Catholic literature the term "God" means "Deity" . I have to translate their English into my English so we are on the same page for discussion...
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    Angel Michael

    Greetings Gunion https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/could-jesus-have-sinned-absolutely-not Specifically, some people claim that Jesus could have sinned but that he consciously chose not to sin. But the fact of the matter is that Jesus could no...
  20. rob

    Angel Michael

    Greetings Grunion, \ You have confused me entirely. How is your view of Jesus and the Father any different to my view? You say the Father and the Son are two persons of deity. So do I You say the Son always did what the Father wanted. So do I. The only difference between us for my...
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