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    Angel Michael

    Grunion says :"The primary pillar of faith, according to Ellen White, was the Personality of God Doctrine - the most important Doctrine of all. This Doctrine taught that God was THREE BEINGS Never does EGW say that Elohiym is three beings, three persons yes, three persojnalities, yes, but never...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    This is a wonderful website on this matter https://catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-doctrine-on-the-holy-trinity.html Yet this is the case with God, where the Holy Spirit is declared by the Church as “the Love or the Sanctity of both the Father and the Son.” He proceeds from them...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    What do you mean by saying God is conditional? Never heard of the term? So if you are Catholic you believe in Evolution, which goes against the Bible? I battled with a Catholic over this subject for months (dozens of posts daily) to very deep peer review journal level and he stopped posting...
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    Angel Michael

    Grunion I am confused now, you say you are "100% Trinitarian." Yet you presented a post of three eternal persons from one substance? Can I ask you why you see the Father and the Son and the HS all as a "he" : A common trinity doctrine. This view violates the Scripture verses. What is your...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Why did you ask about Jesus nature in a SDA context than, using EGW quotes so well? What is your view of EGW? I see her messages as a Hebrew English translation, she helps me understand Hebrew words in English correctly. Like Faith "Emanah" means "support" not some mental assent as the world...
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    Good And Evil

    The average SDA does not understand the difference between the term "muwth" and the term "muwth muwth" We think "muwth" means to "die" to experience "Death" and we term the other "a second death" I have come to learn from EGW that death is a separation, so there are two separations. 1) A...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I will post one reply on this theme from a local Pastor of mine : We however did not discuss the question - Pastors do not like you discussing matters - so here is the monologue emailed to me:- "Now, regarding the Holy Spirit, the reason I refer to Him as a “He” is because...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Interesting read Grunion, now I have some questions for other SDA people like Chief, LeRoy and yourself. Why does the SDA Church call the HS a "he" and what do they mean by terming the HS a "he"? ( I have never had this answer answered formally by any Pastor or Authority or Person) Hosea 4:19...
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    Angel Michael

    Thank Gentlemen (LeRoy & Chief) your replies are profound. Much to think about. I am humbled by Jesus to be under His Divine Powers granted to me daily because I ask for them. This process of faith and salvation is a simile of the process of anointing. We are lively stones placed with a unique...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Well said Chief, I affirm my own two pennies, as the Chief said. Grunion you say the Scriptures say otherwise....that Jesus never failed - never broke faith - Hmm? OK so why did the Devil tempt him relentlessly all his 3 1/2 years as a Preacher? Was the Devil stupid? Eph 1:4 According as he...
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    Angel Michael

    This thread is off to a bad start already You state: "Christ sloughed off His on loaned Divinity You think Jesus-YHWH power of Divinity and Deity comes to Him as a gift by His Father. based on twisting a single verse "he emptied himself" some theories from precepts and traditions of men. It...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Grunion selects a message: Ellen White The unity that exists between Christ and His disciples does not destroy the personality of either. They are one in purpose, in mind, in character, but not in person. It is thus that God and Christ are one. {8T 269.4} Look of the mechanics of this. The...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Greetings Grunion I re-read and compiled your earlier sentences so I can discuss your view properly. Yes there is a EGW message " Had the head of Christ been touched, the hope of the human race would have perished.Divine wrath would have come upon...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Greetings Grunion I watched the video and my answer is NO. The Father's power - Provider Love - would not function if such provider love providing had no-one for this love to respond to. We also learn the Father's power is faithful - What does faith mean? If there is no other parts? Faith...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I like what you said Chief, nice succinct EGW too. I would like to add one point though not known to the average SDA: - A study of the word dissolution If it were true that the souls of all men passed directly to heaven at the hour of dissolution, then...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Grunion said :"Seventh-day Adventist Dogma views Jesus as a man while from the Incarnation onward - Rob: No we don’t. https://adventist.news/news/the-divinity-of-jesus "Each of the Gospel writers quotes Isaiah 40:3...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I have finished reading Canright's book. Lots of questions for you. Copied and will read your links. You did not discuss my first post. “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” Deut. 6:4. Here we strike the key-note of the doctrine of the Deity. “The Lord our God is...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I am only a few minutes in the book and disagree already “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” Deut. 6:4. Here we strike the key-note of the doctrine of the Deity. “The Lord our God is ONE Lord.” Not many, not a thousand, not a...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    https://www.bdsda.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/The-Personality-of-God-by-D.M.-Canright.pdf So this is expected to be as inspired as EGW material and the Bible as a whole? I will study this and let you know. Shalom
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Well my friend this is really something here !! Elder Canright Article The Bible from Heaven," and his articles on the Personality of God are worthy of study, endorsed by EGW? I see. Sabbath Herald, August 29, 1878 Volume 52 No. 10: How do I read this from EGW Writings.org? Did she really...
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